Learning a New Language and Why Many Struggle

Learning a New Language and Why Many Struggle

Learning a New Language and Why Many Struggle has been transcribed from Steve’s YouTube channel. You can download the audio and study the transcript as a lesson at LingQ.

Hi there, Steve Kaufmann here. Today I would like to talk about why I think so many people have trouble learning languages. Now, many of you have heard me say before that the three keys to language learning are motivation, the time you spend with the language, not necessarily in class, but with the language, listening, reading, talking, and the third thing is the ability to notice what’s happening in the language, which is a skill that we acquire the more time we spend learning languages.

 

So someone who isn’t motivated and isn’t going to spend the time, they’re not going to learn and they won’t develop the ability to notice. That’s fine. But there are many people who are motivated, who do spend the time but don’t succeed. Why is that? They sort of abandon in frustration, so I’ve given this quite a bit of thought. Here I am at age 67 and I’m having a great time learning languages, communicating with people in different languages and I have the goal of learning even more languages. I’m having a blast, yet I hear from people who are learning their first language or their second language and are completely frustrated.

 

What is the problem? Well, I think one major issue is that people who haven’t learned a second language, who have never become fluent in a second language don’t believe they can do it. They’ve never done it before. They’ve never experienced it before. It’s a bit like trying to climb a mountain if you don’t believe you’re going to reach the top of the mountain. So I think that is one of the major reasons people just haven’t done it before. They don’t have the confidence they can do it. They don’t know how to do it. There are a lot of things about language learning they don’t realize. They don’t realize that you’re going to forget what you learned. You have to keep learning and forgetting it and learning it and that that should not be a cause for frustration.

 

People get frustrated that they make mistakes. People get frustrated that they didn’t learn that lesson and nail it down, but it’s impossible to do that. These are things that I tell people, but they don’t accept. They seem to feel if they put all that effort into learning and memorizing that somehow these things should stick with them, that they should be able to understand, that they should be able to use these words, that they should be able to get their tenses right and, of course, you can’t.

 

I think people who have experience with learning languages are used to the idea that it’s a gradual process of getting used to the language. People who haven’t want to see results. They want to be able to say something and they want to be able to say it correctly. Maybe it’s our school system that makes us think along these lines, that because we study something we should learn it. Maybe there are things, you know if you’re studying for a test in Physics you’ve got to try to remember those things for the test and you have to try and understand the concept and so forth, whereas language is different. Even if you understand the concept, you still won’t be able to necessarily use it correctly and you won’t understand it when you listen time and time again.

 

So I think this is a very important concept, that language is a matter of getting used to. This is really an approach to learning which is in some ways quite oriental. Even though in places like Japan, China and Korea they’re very much into sort of the teacher or the professor or the master will teach me, in fact, if we look at their traditions, if we look at sort of the Zen tradition, if we look at _____ in Chinese philosophy, if we look at some of the approaches to craftsmanship in Japan, it’s very much a matter of watching people and learning and ______, as they say in Japanese, getting used to something.

 

Keys to Learning a New Language

 

It’s not learning it theoretically from a book. It’s gradually getting used to it, that it sort of layers on to you and with each layer certain things become clear and because these things become clear some other things become clear. But you have to have the confidence that this process, this layering process, this exposing yourself to the language is going to lead to your desired result because if you don’t have that confidence then I guess it can be a frustrating experience.

 

So I think the question then is someone who hasn’t had the experience of learning a language, if that’s the obstacle, how do you overcome it? It’s kind of like a catch 22. You can’t achieve that sense of transforming yourself into someone who can become fluent in another language until you do it. So you kind of have to have that leap of faith that you can do it, anyone can do it. Now, granted, the more languages you learn, as in my case, I’ve learned a number of languages, so not only have I gotten used to different languages, I’ve gotten used to learning. I’ve developed my techniques of learning. People who have learned a number of languages, therefore, have become accustomed to the process, have developed their own techniques and so forth and so on.

 

So what do you do with that beginner learner, the person who is learning their first new language? Well, it’s a matter of having confidence that you can do it because others have done it, others in different countries, different cultural backgrounds, different ages. It’s not a matter of having some unique talent. If you go to Sweden, they all do it and they don’t all have some special gene. Anyone can do it at whatever age, so you have to accept that.

 

I think the other thing is to do things that are enjoyable so that the frustration of forgetting, the frustration of making mistakes, the frustration of feeling that you’re very clumsy when you speak, that those things don’t become the dominant experience. You have to do things that are enjoyable so that the enjoyable aspect of language learning becomes the dominant experience so that you put in the time, that you get enough exposure, that you become accustomed to a language.

 

What are those enjoyable experiences? That depends on each person. For me, as I’ve said many times, it’s listening to things of interest. It’s discovering Romania through _____, discovery Czech history through _____ or discovering Russia through Ekho Moskvy, reading about it, reading about the history of the country. That, to me, is enjoyable. Other people want to get out and speak early, fine. I don’t, for example, do grammar exercises because I don’t find them enjoyable. Some people may find them enjoyable.

 

If you can focus on doing things you enjoy so that the journey itself is enjoyable, if you can accept the fact that implied in language learning is forgetting, is making mistakes, is being clumsy, is not understanding and that it’s just the process of exposing yourself rather than trying to nail down a table of declensions of endings or conjugations, but rather if you spend the time with the language, gradually, your brain will get used to it and your ability to notice things will improve.

 

In my sort of trichotomy there of motivation, everyone understands that, yes, motivation. You’ve got to like the language. You’ve got to be determined. You’ve got to think you can do it. You can’t resist the language. People understand that. Spend the time, they understand that. You’ve got to spend an hour or two a day, that everyone understands. But learning to notice, people don’t seem to understand.

 

I’ve had it happen to me so many times that I don’t notice certain things in the language. Take the third person singular in the present tense in English, people are told you have an ‘s’ there. It’s I go, you go, he goes. People say yeah, yeah, I understand and then they kind of don’t really pay attention when they hear the language.

 

The pronunciation, I’ve used the example many times of people who rely on how words are pronounced or how certain spellings are pronounced in their own language so a word becomes ‘ward’. Well, they aren’t listening. They aren’t paying attention. They aren’t noticing. The more you learn languages, the more you learn a particular language, the more experience you have with the language you start to notice better. These are all forms of experience that you gradually accumulate.

 

So a lot of people experience frustration in language learning because they have never achieved success in language learning. But success breeds success and once you’ve done it once and you’ve realized that objective of becoming fluent in another language and you realize how wonderful it is to do that, then you have the confidence that you can do it again. Success breeds success.

 

Some people stay within the comfort of certain language families, romance languages or European languages, but I think the same applies to learning a language from a completely different language group, say Chinese or Japanese or Arabic. At first people are, again, intimidated because they haven’t done it before, but once they do it and they’ve achieved that sense of success then they know they can do it.

 

I guess the message here is for those of you who do experience frustration in your language learning, you have to stay the course. Find ways to enjoy it. Find some way to climb that first mountain. Once you have climbed that first mountain, then you look out and you see all the other peaks and you know that you can climb any of those other peaks because you’ve already done it. The hardest one is the first one. So I hope that that is in some way motivating.

 

I should say one more thing, by the way. I’ve made a lot of videos now in English. If you would like to hear a video in another language, please let me know. But I want to do these for speakers of those languages. I don’t want to just sort of demonstrate Romanian or something. If someone feels that they are following me in English but don’t fully understand and would like to hear it in Japanese, French, Spanish, Portuguese or some other language, please let me know.

 

I will make mistakes when I do these in other languages, perhaps fewer mistakes in French of Japanese and many mistakes in Russian or Portuguese, but I’m happy to do them with mistakes. If I say that it’s important to accept the fact that we make mistakes when we speak foreign languages, I have to accept the fact that I’m going to make mistakes. I don’t mind showing my mistakes to other people; it’s all part of the process.

 

So I look forward to hearing from you. You can ask me here or you can send me a message by Twitter. However you want Lingo Steve and I’d be happy to answer the questions or if you have a special request to hear some of my views on language learning in other languages, please let me know.

 

Thank you for listening, bye for now.

 

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1 comment on “Learning a New Language and Why Many Struggle

Ross Morel

I am learning french as a second language, it is the native language of my late grandfather and one of the languages of my bi lingual partner. Growing up i never really took the opportunity to learn from my grandfather even though i visited france several times. And now that i have a free tutor, i feel that i can make real progress, though i have rarely spoken with her as i am in the beginning stages of both my journey with the language, and our relationship.

I often find that moving your mind to this other language can be very difficult, things often won’t make sense until you are exposed to them to the point where they finally click. Though luckily french is so similar to english in some places, that other aspects of learning the language are relatively easy. I have been using lingQ for input for about 2/3 months now and it really does the job. But now i really need to push myself in the direction of a better balance between input and output.

The issues raised in this video seem to me to be the same ones that underpin my own learning, as i have come to see it. I tend to learn better when i look at content i enjoy, for example i love “eating out” on the lingq site, but cannot stand “who is she” even thought it is the same voices and a better story, i have found that eating out is probably just my level whereas who is she is a little beyond my reach at the moment. Also, i find myself studying as much as i can each day using books and lingQ, i find that i learn more on the days when i study for a few hours, as i find i get used to switching my brain into french mode, and this makes learning the language so much more intuitive. Also, this allows you to get better at noticing patterns in the language, i find.

great video as usual steve

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