The Linguist on Language http://blog.thelinguist.com For people who love languages, or would but were discouraged... posterous.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:54:21 -0800 Meet up in Australia and New Zealand in March. http://blog.thelinguist.com/meet-up-in-australia-and-new-zealand-in-march http://blog.thelinguist.com/meet-up-in-australia-and-new-zealand-in-march

Just a reminder that I will be in Australia and New Zealand in March. Anyone interested in a meet up?

Proposed dates for meet ups:

Auckland Mar 2
Melbourne Mar 9
Sydney Mar 15
Brisbane Mar 21

I hope to meet some LingQers , language enthusiasts and their friends. Anyone available?

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Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:33:46 -0800 Adults can learn languages better than children? http://blog.thelinguist.com/adults-can-learn-languages-better-than-childr http://blog.thelinguist.com/adults-can-learn-languages-better-than-childr

A recent study shows that adults can learn languages better than children. There are other studies that show children as better at learning languages, and point to a critical period after which it is more difficult to learn languages. We know empirically that children, especially children under 10 or 12, become fluent in a new language more quickly than adults, with better pronunciation although often with a more limited vocabulary.

In fact it is motivation and attitude, not age, that determines our ability to learn languages. Most, if not all, polyglots, learn most of their languages as adults. Adults are often more inhibited or self-conscious, and have less opportunity, or are less willing, to socialize with people of another language group, whereas children just blend in to their new environment.

The only thing that matters is that we can learn at any age. If we are 50 there is no point in wondering if we were able to learn better when we were 5. If you can motivate a child to learn a language when young, great. Otherwise it is never too late to start.

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Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:35:39 -0800 Age and language learning http://blog.thelinguist.com/age-and-language-learning http://blog.thelinguist.com/age-and-language-learning

Does age affect language learning? I am sure it does for young children, but beyond that I think we can learn languages at any age. Here is a video I did in response to a request from Stefan.

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLz9-jlJ-fA&w=560&h=315]

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Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:10:47 -0800 Evgueny talks to Steve about Russia. (in Russian) http://blog.thelinguist.com/evgueny-talks-to-steve-about-russia-in-russia http://blog.thelinguist.com/evgueny-talks-to-steve-about-russia-in-russia

Evgueny, one of my Russian tutors at LingQ, and I, have started a series of discussions on Russia, in Russian. This material is for our Library at LingQ, and so I try to keep my comments (full of errors) to a minimum, mostly a few questions here and there. Evgueny is knowledgeable and most interesting to listen to. The audio and text of this series are available in our Library, of course. Here is the most recent episode where we talk of Russia today and yesterday.

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The name of the Collection in the Lingq Library is:

НОВЫЙ РУССКИЙ ПОДКАСТ

 

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Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:10:25 -0800 Active vocabulary and passive vocabulary. http://blog.thelinguist.com/active-vocabulary-and-passive-vocabulary http://blog.thelinguist.com/active-vocabulary-and-passive-vocabulary

What do we mean by knowing a word. Here is a video on the subject.

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Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:59:00 -0800 Can we learn 100 words a day? http://blog.thelinguist.com/can-we-learn-100-words-a-day http://blog.thelinguist.com/can-we-learn-100-words-a-day

In a comment to a previous post, Stefan asked me how many words I thought I could learn in a day. We had quite a discussion on this, and I have given it some more thought.

If I take my own Czech studies, I have been at it about 6 months.  It is all part time, one hour a day most of the time, some days much more, and for stretches of time, nothing. The main activity is listening, then comes reading, and saving words at LingQ, (LingQing). A smaller amount of time is spent on reviewing words in flash cards, and just recently I have started talking to a tutor online at LingQ.

So if we call this period of time 180 days, and if we use the statistics generated by LingQ, the numbers look like this.

"Known words" by this I mean only my ability to recognise the meaning, or a meaning: 25,260.

This includes non-words, numbers, names etc. How many I don't know but let's say 10%. So the number is really  probably 23,000

Stefan made the point that Czech is very inflected and therefore this inflates this number compared to English. At first I agreed that this is relevant but now I am not so convinced. In fact we need to learn the different forms of the words, for tenses or cases, or person, whether in Czech or French, so each of these words does count, in my view.

"LingQs created" or saved in the system: 20,600

 of which 7,425 have been moved up in status towards varying degrees of"known". Note that I do not do a lot of flash carding and only move words up in status sporadically.

When I look at lists of these words in the vocab section, I know most of them, but certainly not all.This number includes 1725 phrases. So perhaps I should count this as 5,000 words. Even among the other so-called status "1" words, roughly 13,000 or so, there will be words that I know. but never mind.

So maybe I know, albeit passively, 28,000 words.Maybe. And I have been at it, although not every day, for 180 days. This means that I may have learned words at the rate of 155 words a day. Who knows? Maybe it is a lower number, but I believe it is at least 100 words a day. Most words are learned incidentally through reading, and especially through seeing the yellow saved LingQs highlighted in our texts at LingQ.

Note that I have read over 250,000 words at LingQ in Czech, often more than once. This is the equivalent of 3 average length novels.

I can read the newspaper fairly well.

Apparently Czech shares 40% vocabulary with Russian,(which I have studied, also in the same way at LingQ). By that I mean this is the number of words that are the same or recognizable, like zitra/ zavtra for tomorrow. English has 60% Latin based words, so I think that an English person who put the same effort into French or Spanish, could learn the same number of words in those languages.

100 words a day, if you are willing to put in the time.

 

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Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:28:11 -0800 Learn the basics in the language first? Really? http://blog.thelinguist.com/learn-the-basics-in-the-language-first-really http://blog.thelinguist.com/learn-the-basics-in-the-language-first-really Can we even learn the basics first? I find that I cannot do it. I just forge ahead and learn words and get used to the language? I think we need to cover a lot of ground, some new, some old. We need to explore new things, pushing the boundaries, while regularly reviewing the basics, many times during the learning process. The basics take a long time to learn. We need to go back to them over and over. I do not think they can be learned up front. I think trying to force learners to learn the basics first discourages many learners, since it is very hard to do, and for most people very boring.

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Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:13:23 -0800 "Babel No More" by Michael Erard, a book review http://blog.thelinguist.com/babel-no-more-by-michael-erard-a-book-review http://blog.thelinguist.com/babel-no-more-by-michael-erard-a-book-review

Babel No More by Michael Erard  is described on the front cover as “the search for the world’s most extraordinary language learners.”  

The book is well written, like an adventure or treasure hunt. A number of well known speakers of many languages, hyperglots as Erard calls them, from history to the present day, are described or interviewed. “What makes them tick” is the question and there are no simple answers.

Many things are left deliberately unclear. Why call some language learners extraordinary, and others not? Why draw an arbitrary line? Is three 3 languages enough, or 6, or 11, or 50?

It is also not clear what constitutes knowing a language. How well do we need to speak, read and write?

As to whether there is something special about the brains of these super-learners, or their methods, or their mindsets, there are also no conclusions, unless you accept Erard’s statement that “hyperglots persist in repetitious activities that bore most other people.” I don't accept this premise. I am no hyperglot but I enjoy learning languages.

Hyperglots,in fact, are simply people who enjoy learning multiple languages. Their motives vary. How is that different from other interests that people have?

My father-in-law buys old cars and orders great numbers of parts which he carefully catalogues and stores in his garage, and then uses to rebuild these cars. Growing up I had an older  friend who made model sailing ships from small bits of balsa wood, painted them and put them into bottles. I could never ever do these kinds of things, no matter how much you paid me.

No doubt the brains of language learners are different from the brains of non-language learners. But why is that strange? As Erard points out, the brains of pianists, as an example, quickly develop differently from the brains of other people. Which comes first, the brain or the talent? Erard asks the question but does not answer it. Do language learners keep learning because their brains are more plastic, or are their brains more plastic because they continue learning languages?

Erard provides some interesting gems of information. Did you know that we remember much better if we chew gum while studying? Dopamine and the fitness of our hippocampus both help us learn languages. Exercise stimulates both. Maybe that is why pro athletes often seem better at language learning than academics.

One skill that seems to vary depending on the nature of our brains, is the ability to mimic. This suggests that the likelihood that we will achieve close to native-like pronunciation if we take up a language after childhood, varies from person to person, no matter how hard we try.

Erard describes the typical hyperglot as meaning-oriented, pattern-seeking, analytical, somewhat introverted, yet flexible, open and attentive. Furthermore, it is important to be able to get outside one’s own language ego.

So where does this leave the rest of us, the ordinary language learners? Where we were before. We need to want to learn a language, we need to put in the time, and we need to train ourselves to notice the language. We have no way of knowing if we share some of the characteristics of these super-learners. Nor do they have any special insights to offer. If we are interested and put in the time we will learn.

The major activity of language acquisition is using the language, at first listening and reading and eventually speaking and writing. The more languages we learn, the better we get at learning languages. Once we learn one language, learning a related language becomes easier. So if the goal is to rack up an impressive number of known languages, if we have the motivation, and especially if we have the time, our language learning skills will become honed over time. If we want to, we can also become hyperglots, on our own terms of course. But first we have to get that first language under our belts.

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Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:10:13 -0800 Is Pimsleur effective? http://blog.thelinguist.com/is-pimsleur-effective-8943 http://blog.thelinguist.com/is-pimsleur-effective-8943

Many people like using Pimsleur. I consider it a poor investment of time. I think the difference is in how different people study and what their goals are.

My goal is to acquire as many words as possible, in the shortest period of time, so that I can understand what I read, and what I hear on radio etc. I am less concerned about speaking right away. I am confident that I will be able to speak once I have enough words. Pimsleur does not cover a lot of words, but tries to get you speaking from the beginning.

I find it useful to measure the time I spend on a language in hours rather than in months. I have spent about 100 -120 hours or so on Czech. I can make out what the newspaper is saying on a familiar subject and am reading a history book on Central Europe in Czech. I listen to Radio Prague and can understand a lot of it if I listen after I have read the article. I don't think that 100-120  hours on Pimsleur would enable me to do that.

For reference, when I studied Chinese I spent 7 to 10 hours a day at it. For Russian I was only able to spend an hour or so a day. After 10 months of Chinese I had spent over 3,000 hours on Chinese. In five years of Russian I had only managed to spend half that amount of time, or 1,500 hours. My Chinese is better than my Russian.

100 hours of Czech is not a lot. But the structure and some of the vocabulary is the same as Russian. In think that in another 2-300 hours I will be able to read quite well, and by then I will be able to discuss certain subjects. I expect to understand much of the radio without having to read the article ahead of time. Again, I don't think Pimsleur would enable me to do that.

If I can understand, I can always learn to speak when the opportunity to use the language arises. If I master the most common words and phrases, I will still not understand most of what I hear and read.

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Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:10:13 -0800 Is Pimsleur effective? http://blog.thelinguist.com/is-pimsleur-effective http://blog.thelinguist.com/is-pimsleur-effective

Many people like using Pimsleur. I consider it a poor investment of time. I think the difference is in how different people study and what their goals are.

My goal is to acquire as many words as possible, in the shortest period of time, so that I can understand what I read, and what I hear on radio etc. I am less concerned about speaking right away. I am confident that I will be able to speak once I have enough words. Pimsleur does not cover a lot of words, but tries to get you speaking from the beginning.

I find it useful to measure the time I spend on a language in hours rather than in months. I have spent about 100 -120 hours or so on Czech. I can make out what the newspaper is saying on a familiar subject and am reading a history book on Central Europe in Czech. I listen to Radio Prague and can understand a lot of it if I listen after I have read the article. I don't think that 100-120  hours on Pimsleur would enable me to do that.

For reference, when I studied Chinese I spent 7 to 10 hours a day at it. For Russian I was only able to spend an hour or so a day. After 10 months of Chinese I had spent over 3,000 hours on Chinese. In five years of Russian I had only managed to spend half that amount of time, or 1,500 hours. My Chinese is better than my Russian.

100 hours of Czech is not a lot. But the structure and some of the vocabulary is the same as Russian. In think that in another 2-300 hours I will be able to read quite well, and by then I will be able to discuss certain subjects. I expect to understand much of the radio without having to read the article ahead of time. Again, I don't think Pimsleur would enable me to do that.

If I can understand, I can always learn to speak when the opportunity to use the language arises. If I master the most common words and phrases, I will still not understand most of what I hear and read.

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Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:03:51 -0800 Pimsleur or talk like a native in 10 days. http://blog.thelinguist.com/pimsleur-or-talk-like-a-native-in-10-days http://blog.thelinguist.com/pimsleur-or-talk-like-a-native-in-10-days

Pimleur promises that you will talk like a native in 10 days. Pimsleur does not even specify the language, Spanish? Chinese? Hungarian? Who knows? Pimsleur is a venerable name in language learning. Why this "snake-oil salesman" approach to promoting their product.

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Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:00:56 -0800 Online educational badges a new form of credential. http://blog.thelinguist.com/online-educational-badges-a-new-form-of-crede http://blog.thelinguist.com/online-educational-badges-a-new-form-of-crede

Will online badges replace diplomas one day? Here is an article on the subject. Right now students have to go to college to earn diplomas, the tickets they need for success in the work place. Studies show that many of these students learn little, at least in the humanities, and of course the cost of universities is enormous, whether paid for by the student or someone else. Could it be that in the future people can learn wherever they want, including on the Internet,  and still get a form of recognition that will be recognized in society? These are just the early days in the dismantling of an archaic education system. What do you think?

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Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:01:48 -0800 A new form of CPR. This may save a life. http://blog.thelinguist.com/a-new-form-of-cpr-this-may-save-a-life http://blog.thelinguist.com/a-new-form-of-cpr-this-may-save-a-life

This video is not about language learning , but it could very well save a life. This is a new simpler and more effective form of Continuous Chest Compression, to use to assist a person experiencing cardiac arrest.It could save a life.

I think this is worth passing on.

-Study the transcript of this video on LingQ-

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Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:53:00 -0800 When our motivation for language learning sags http://blog.thelinguist.com/when-our-motivation-for-language-learning-sag http://blog.thelinguist.com/when-our-motivation-for-language-learning-sag

What can we do when our language learning motivation sags? Just focus on doing the things that you like to do.

 

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Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:53:15 -0800 Fossilization and interlanguage http://blog.thelinguist.com/fossilization-and-interlanguage http://blog.thelinguist.com/fossilization-and-interlanguage

Fossilization and interlanguage are examples of language teaching jargon. These kinds of technical terms that are associated with language teaching often strike me as unnecessary, and not helpful to language learners. I know that learners are not aware of these terms. However they are often used by experts in Second Language Acquisition, and people who teach teachers how to teach languages. I feel that these terms have had little if any positive influence on language learning. Language learning still comes down to motivation, time on task and the ability to notice. Here is a recent youtube video I did on the subject.

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4zI-raPnEQ&w=560&h=315]

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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:22:48 -0800 About a wonderful linguist - Michael Krauss http://blog.thelinguist.com/about-a-wonderful-linguist-michael-krauss http://blog.thelinguist.com/about-a-wonderful-linguist-michael-krauss

I was sent this very interesting article written by Michael Krauss in which he describes his own linguistic journey or journeys. Very interesting reading indeed!

This comes from an intriguing travel related blog called view from the pier.

Thank you Chet Murray!

 

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Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:38:09 -0800 Turkish is added at LingQ! http://blog.thelinguist.com/turkish-is-added-at-lingq http://blog.thelinguist.com/turkish-is-added-at-lingq

We are adding one language a month at LingQ. The winner last month was Turkish. I am definitely going to get to that language. Now we just need some Turkish content. I hope our members come through.

You can vote for the next language. Just have a look under Questions at our Facebook page. Right now it looks like a close race between Farsi, Finnish, Cantonese, Modern Greek and Hebrew. There are also a few dark horses. Meanwhile enjoy Turkish.

Learn Turkish on LingQ!

Did you know that Turkish is spoken by an estimated 80 million people worldwide? It is an agglutinative language and has a word order similar to Korean and Japanese, but it also has noun cases like Russian and Czech.

Turkish underwent some significant changes in the early 1900s, including a change in the writing system, moving from an Arabic-based script to a Latin-based script.

For a list of great Turkish content, be sure to check out the Turkish Listening Library, assembled by Aaron Myers.

Get started on Turkish today!

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Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:49:58 -0800 Why learn Chinese? http://blog.thelinguist.com/why-learn-chinese http://blog.thelinguist.com/why-learn-chinese

I am back from my various travels and tomorrow I have a date. I am one of five judges who will choose the winner of the 2011 Miss Chinese Vancouver pageant. We will be interviewing the contestants in Chinese and English tomorrow afternoon, and this is followed by a Chinese dinner with them. Next Wednesday is the Gala Show on Fairchild TV, where yours truly will try not to make too much of a fool of himself.

For a look at the contestants, and to understand the advantages of learning Chinese, check out the photo gallery. Needless to say I am looking forward to a scintillating intellectual discussion and a great meal tomorrow. Ah the cultural delights of learning languages!

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Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:55:01 -0800 Why learn Russian? http://blog.thelinguist.com/why-learn-russian http://blog.thelinguist.com/why-learn-russian

Russian is an international language, used in the post-Soviet space as a lingua franca. Russia has rich literature, and has demonstrated genius and excellence in science, music, dance, and many other fields. Perhaps this genius and striving for perfection is embodied in this performance by these two Russian acrobats. I apologize for the ad that starts it off. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hIc2ODfRxQ&w=500&h=400]  

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Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:50:03 -0800 A good reason to learn Hungarian. http://blog.thelinguist.com/a-good-reason-to-learn-hungarian http://blog.thelinguist.com/a-good-reason-to-learn-hungarian

Motivation is the key to language learning success. Here is a powerful reason to learn Hungarian.[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n0qXSO7Z-Q?fs=1&feature=oembed] 

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